Default Reply-to-sender

Did you guys make a conscious decision to have the matplotlib list
send replies only to the sender of the message rather than the list?

This seems to be the default at SourceForge, so it's conceivable you
just haven't bothered to change it. I've been on at least 10
different mailing lists in the past 2 years or so, and of those
matplotlib's is the only one I can recall being set up with default
reply-to-sender rather than reply-to-list.

I keep accidentally replying to senders only, so I thought I'd mention
it. In the admin section on sourceforge there's a checkbox you can
set to change the list from reply-to-sender to reply-to-list as the
default.

--bb

Bill Baxter wrote:

Did you guys make a conscious decision to have the matplotlib list
send replies only to the sender of the message rather than the list?

This was a deliberate decision. At the time there was a discussion, including a link to a very well written blog entry on the subject, advocating the current practice.

As well written as that essay is, I think it's based on false assumptions and inappropriate priorities.

But I lost that one.

-Chris

PS: I almost sent this only to Bill!

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Bill Baxter wrote:
> Did you guys make a conscious decision to have the matplotlib list
> send replies only to the sender of the message rather than the list?

This was a deliberate decision. At the time there was a discussion,
including a link to a very well written blog entry on the subject,
advocating the current practice.

As well written as that essay is, I think it's based on false
assumptions and inappropriate priorities.

I'm personally happy to change it but I currently mostly just use the
defaults. The mailman instructions encourage list admins to make
reply to posters the default. When I started using a new mail client
for this list (gmail) I had to train myself to hit 'a' (reply to all)
rather than 'r' (reply to sender). Now I've mostly gotten the routine
down so it is mostly a nonissue for me.

From mailman:

Reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages
directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists.

This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in
messages flowing through this mailing list. When set to Poster, no
the original message, it is not stripped. Setting this value to either
This list or Explicit address causes Mailman to insert a specific
original message if necessary (Explicit address inserts the value of
reply_to_address).

There are many reasons not to introduce or override the Reply-To:
header. One is that some posters depend on their own Reply-To:
settings to convey their valid return address. Another is that
modifying Reply-To: makes it much more difficult to send private
replies. See `Reply-To' Munging Considered Harmful for a general
discussion of this issue. See Reply-To Munging Considered Useful for a
dissenting opinion.

Some mailing lists have restricted posting privileges, with a parallel
list devoted to discussions. Examples are `patches' or `checkin'
lists, where software changes are posted by a revision control system,
but discussion about the changes occurs on a developers mailing list.
To support these types of mailing lists, select Explicit address and
set the Reply-To: address below to point to the parallel list.

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On 3/26/07, Christopher Barker <Chris.Barker@...259...> wrote:
Reply-To: header is added by Mailman, although if one is present in
Reply-To: header in all messages, overriding the header in the

Hmm...
I had similar problems in the past, and was pointed at:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

The above doc makes sense IMO. It's just after reading it that I
noticed the reply-to-all button in GMail.

Edin

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On 3/24/07, Bill Baxter <wbaxter@...287...> wrote:

Did you guys make a conscious decision to have the matplotlib list
send replies only to the sender of the message rather than the list?

This seems to be the default at SourceForge, so it's conceivable you
just haven't bothered to change it. I've been on at least 10
different mailing lists in the past 2 years or so, and of those
matplotlib's is the only one I can recall being set up with default
reply-to-sender rather than reply-to-list.

I keep accidentally replying to senders only, so I thought I'd mention
it. In the admin section on sourceforge there's a checkbox you can
set to change the list from reply-to-sender to reply-to-list as the
default.

--bb