Why is pip not mentioned in the Installation Documentation?

In article <50A61B5B.1090302@...3926...>,

Hi,

I'm interested to know why the pip package manager is not more widely
supported for installation of python packages like matplotlib?
Matplotlib seems to be particularly slowly updated in the Fedora
repositories, for example, so I often find that a source installation is
necessary. I know this isn't especially difficult for the experienced
user, but surely using something like pip would make this process for
accessible for all users of python packages, particularly those that do
not receive much attention from the big distribution maintainers? Yet,
pip doesn't get a mention on the installation documentation of
matplotlib or many other python packs.

I would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this matter.

Unfortunately pip cannot install binaries, so any user that tried to
install matplotlib using pip would have to have a C compiler.

Unfortunately many users do not have a compiler on MacOS and Windows.

In addition, matplotlib has some important dependencies that may not be
available on all systems. MacOS now includes all necessary libraries. I
don't think that is true for most flavors linux (though there is
probably an easy way to get all missing packages). I have no idea about
Windows.

I agree pip should be mentioned, but I don't see it as a viable
mainstream means of installing matplotlib.

(Does it even work with matplotlib? I've never tried it.)

-- Russell

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Mathew Topper <mathew.topper@...3926...> wrote:

In article <50A61B5B.1090302@...3926...>,

Hi,

I'm interested to know why the pip package manager is not more widely
supported for installation of python packages like matplotlib?
Matplotlib seems to be particularly slowly updated in the Fedora
repositories, for example, so I often find that a source installation is
necessary. I know this isn't especially difficult for the experienced
user, but surely using something like pip would make this process for
accessible for all users of python packages, particularly those that do
not receive much attention from the big distribution maintainers? Yet,
pip doesn't get a mention on the installation documentation of
matplotlib or many other python packs.

I would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this matter.

Unfortunately pip cannot install binaries, so any user that tried to
install matplotlib using pip would have to have a C compiler.

Unfortunately many users do not have a compiler on MacOS and Windows.

In addition, matplotlib has some important dependencies that may not be
available on all systems. MacOS now includes all necessary libraries. I
don't think that is true for most flavors linux (though there is
probably an easy way to get all missing packages). I have no idea about
Windows.

I agree pip should be mentioned, but I don't see it as a viable
mainstream means of installing matplotlib.

(Does it even work with matplotlib? I've never tried it.)

-- Russell

pip is the only method I have used in my Linux work.

-Sterling

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On Nov 16, 2012, at 2:25PM, Russell E. Owen wrote:

Mathew Topper <mathew.topper@...3926...> wrote:

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