I (personally) would prefer you not use the work ‘pylab’ in your app name. There is enough confusion related to the term ‘pylab’ as it is with out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning.
I am speaking for my self in this email.
Tom
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On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…55…149…> wrote:
Hi,
We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full source access
giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices.
We would like to call this app “Pylab Console” on a freemium model with a free and premium version.
This app will give graphics support in its premium version.
And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2
From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term “Pylab” in our Android App name ?
Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the authorisation of publishing such an app ?
Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
…"
So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden by the licence text.
Thanks for your help.
Apps Embedded Team.
···
2014-11-07 15:03 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell <tcaswell@…149…>:
I (personally) would prefer you not use the work ‘pylab’ in your app name. There is enough confusion related to the term ‘pylab’ as it is with out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning.
I am speaking for my self in this email.
Tom
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full source access
giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices.
We would like to call this app “Pylab Console” on a freemium model with a free and premium version.
This app will give graphics support in its premium version.
And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2
From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term “Pylab” in our Android App name ?
Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the authorisation of publishing such an app ?
I suspect no project will be happy with you shadowing their name.
I suggest you also talk to NumFocus.
Again, this is written in a personal capacity.
Tom
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On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
Could I name this app “Scipy Console Free” ?
In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said
"…
Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
…"
So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden by the licence text.
Thanks for your help.
Apps Embedded Team.
–
2014-11-07 15:03 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell <tcaswell@…149…>:
I (personally) would prefer you not use the work ‘pylab’ in your app name. There is enough confusion related to the term ‘pylab’ as it is with out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning.
I am speaking for my self in this email.
Tom
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full source access
giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices.
We would like to call this app “Pylab Console” on a freemium model with a free and premium version.
This app will give graphics support in its premium version.
And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2
From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term “Pylab” in our Android App name ?
Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the authorisation of publishing such an app ?
Hello,
I agree with Thomas this is not the right (and only) forum to ask
these questions. If you seek legal advice you should ask a lawyer.
Hi,
Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ?
do no use any name already taken, thats a general rule of thumb to
avoid legal issues
In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said
"...
Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may be
used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without
specific prior written permission.
..."
So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden by
the licence text.
Nope you didnt get the licence right (at list that point), there it
means you cannot say the entity Enthought or any SciPy developers (the
people who wrote the scipy code) are endorsing your product as good,
valid, appropriate, anything.
Again, seek legal advices with legal professionels.
Maybe a “Science Console” name should simply do it.
And for the Python trademark, is there any legal issue with charging an Android app using the python langage ?
Apps Embedded Team.
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2014-11-07 15:36 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell <tcaswell@…149…>:
You need to ask that on the scipy list, not here.
I suspect no project will be happy with you shadowing their name.
I suggest you also talk to NumFocus.
Again, this is written in a personal capacity.
Tom
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
Could I name this app “Scipy Console Free” ?
In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said
"…
Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
…"
So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden by the licence text.
Thanks for your help.
Apps Embedded Team.
Thomas Caswell
tcaswell@…149…
–
2014-11-07 15:03 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell <tcaswell@…149…>:
I (personally) would prefer you not use the work ‘pylab’ in your app name. There is enough confusion related to the term ‘pylab’ as it is with out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning.
I am speaking for my self in this email.
Tom
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full source access
giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices.
We would like to call this app “Pylab Console” on a freemium model with a free and premium version.
This app will give graphics support in its premium version.
And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2
From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term “Pylab” in our Android App name ?
Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the authorisation of publishing such an app ?
This is like me asking you whether I can legally call something “android” because you are android developers and thus totally qualified to speak on behalf of Google’s legal department.
-n
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On 7 Nov 2014 14:44, “Apps Embedded” <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
You are right.
Maybe a “Science Console” name should simply do it.
And for the Python trademark, is there any legal issue with charging an Android app using the python langage ?
I can’t speak about trademarks, but with regards to projects that are released under BSD license, it is my understanding (but, IANAL) that it is perfectly valid to sell a product using BSD code. I also think that it is ok to relicense it as GPLv3, but I am not entirely clear on that.
Trademarks are an entirely different issue, though, and one that I have zero clue about. Do get a lawyer, or at least read up on the legal FAQs from FSF and other organizations.
Ben Root
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On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
This was just in case we could get some answers about selling some open-source code including Matplotlib.
2014-11-07 16:03 GMT+01:00 Benjamin Root <ben.root@…553…>:
I can’t speak about trademarks, but with regards to projects that are released under BSD license, it is my understanding (but, IANAL) that it is perfectly valid to sell a product using BSD code. I also think that it is ok to relicense it as GPLv3, but I am not entirely clear on that.
Trademarks are an entirely different issue, though, and one that I have zero clue about. Do get a lawyer, or at least read up on the legal FAQs from FSF and other organizations.
Ben Root
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Apps Embedded <apps.embedded@…149…> wrote:
Hi,
This was just in case we could get some answers about selling some open-source code including Matplotlib.