GSOC mentoring organization

Can anyone find the link to the form to fill out to become a GSOC mentoring application? The deadline is today and I’d like to participate. I’ve waded through the FAQ and other documents, but I seem to be running in circles.

JDH

I've found this:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2012

Nicolas

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On Mar 6, 2012, at 15:53 , John Hunter wrote:

Can anyone find the link to the form to fill out to become a GSOC mentoring application? The deadline is today and I'd like to participate. I've waded through the FAQ and other documents, but I seem to be running in circles.

JDH
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And this page seems to gather all relevant links:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/userguide

Nicolas

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On Mar 6, 2012, at 16:54 , Nicolas Rougier wrote:

I've found this:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2012

Nicolas

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One thing I am unclear on. They make a distinction between being mentors and organization administrators. In the past, PSF has always been the sponsoring organization. What I am wondering is: does mpl need to have an organization administrator in addition to mentors, or is PSF the organization administrator and we just sign up individually as mentors?

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Nicolas Rougier <Nicolas.Rougier@…922…> wrote:

And this page seems to gather all relevant links:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/userguide

You might ask on the sympy list. I think they were actually registered
as an organization administrator last year, given the number of
students they had.

For statsmodels, we sign up under the umbrella of PSF who are the
organization. So we don't do anything until PSF announces that they
have been accepted as an organization IIRC.

We plan to do the same this year.

Skipper

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM, John Hunter <jdh2358@...149...> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Nicolas Rougier <Nicolas.Rougier@...980....> > wrote:

And this page seems to gather all relevant links:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/userguide

One thing I am unclear on. They make a distinction between being mentors
and organization administrators. In the past, PSF has always been the
sponsoring organization. What I am wondering is: does mpl need to have an
organization administrator in addition to mentors, or is PSF the
organization administrator and we just sign up individually as mentors?

The timeline at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 says March 6th is the “[GSOC] Mentoring organization application deadline”. How do you interpret “mentoring organization” there? As the PSF or someone under their umbrella such as statsmodels or mpl?

I went ahead and filled out the mentor application form that Nicolas pointed me to as “John Hunter” and use matplotlib.sf.net as the website. Perhaps a few other MPL devs willing to mentor should do the same just to be on the safe side.

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2012

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Skipper Seabold <jsseabold@…149…> wrote:

One thing I am unclear on. They make a distinction between being mentors

and organization administrators. In the past, PSF has always been the

sponsoring organization. What I am wondering is: does mpl need to have an

organization administrator in addition to mentors, or is PSF the

organization administrator and we just sign up individually as mentors?

You might ask on the sympy list. I think they were actually registered

as an organization administrator last year, given the number of

students they had.

For statsmodels, we sign up under the umbrella of PSF who are the

organization. So we don’t do anything until PSF announces that they

have been accepted as an organization IIRC.

We plan to do the same this year.

> One thing I am unclear on. They make a distinction between being
> mentors
> and organization administrators. In the past, PSF has always been the
> sponsoring organization. What I am wondering is: does mpl need to have
> an
> organization administrator in addition to mentors, or is PSF the
> organization administrator and we just sign up individually as mentors?

You might ask on the sympy list. I think they were actually registered
as an organization administrator last year, given the number of
students they had.

For statsmodels, we sign up under the umbrella of PSF who are the
organization. So we don't do anything until PSF announces that they
have been accepted as an organization IIRC.

We plan to do the same this year.

The timeline at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012
says March 6th is the "[GSOC] Mentoring organization application deadline".

March 9th?

How do you interpret "mentoring organization" there? As the PSF or someone
under their umbrella such as statsmodels or mpl?

I interpret it as PSF unless you want to register as a separate
mentoring organization. Eg., sympy wasn't under PSF last year. Since
spots are allocated to the organization, if you anticipate having a
lot of interest it makes sense to register as a mentoring organization
and try to get your own allotment. However, there's a greater burden
put on mentoring organization as far as administrative duties and
project size expectations. At least that's my understanding.

I went ahead and filled out the mentor application form that Nicolas pointed
me to as "John Hunter" and use matplotlib.sf.net as the website. Perhaps a
few other MPL devs willing to mentor should do the same just to be on the
safe side.

I can't recall is it's a GSoC requirement or a PSF requirement right
now (I think the latter), but you need at least 3 mentors per project.

Skipper

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, John Hunter <jdh2358@...149...> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Skipper Seabold <jsseabold@...149...> > wrote:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2012

I thought it was the 6th too, but it turns out to be the 9th. Maybe
they changed it?

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 16:51, Skipper Seabold <jsseabold@...149...> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, John Hunter <jdh2358@...149...> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Skipper Seabold <jsseabold@...149...> >> wrote:

> One thing I am unclear on. They make a distinction between being
> mentors
> and organization administrators. In the past, PSF has always been the
> sponsoring organization. What I am wondering is: does mpl need to have
> an
> organization administrator in addition to mentors, or is PSF the
> organization administrator and we just sign up individually as mentors?

You might ask on the sympy list. I think they were actually registered
as an organization administrator last year, given the number of
students they had.

For statsmodels, we sign up under the umbrella of PSF who are the
organization. So we don't do anything until PSF announces that they
have been accepted as an organization IIRC.

We plan to do the same this year.

The timeline at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012
says March 6th is the "[GSOC] Mentoring organization application deadline".

March 9th?

--
Nick Barnes, Climate Code Foundation, http://climatecode.org/

From the list of 2008 given in the FAQ (http://code.google.com/soc/2008/), it seems that a mentoring organization corresponds roughly to a project.

Also, from the FAQ:

Organization Administrators

Organization administrators submit an organization's application, and have the ability to invite system users to act as mentors or co-organization admins for their accepted organization. They have all the same system rights as Mentors, though if they wish to mentor a student they will also need to create a Mentor role profile. Users cannot act as an organization administrator and student for the same Program, but an organization administrator can act as an admin/mentor for another organization. All the organization administrators are mentors for that organization by default. They don't have to become mentors for the organization they are administrating explicitly.

Mentors

Mentors have the ability to review student applications and score them. Any user has the capability to apply as a mentor for any particular organization, though note that organization administrators must accept their request. Users cannot act as both mentor and student for the same Program, but a mentor can act as an organization administrator/mentor for another organization. Mentors are responsible for the projects they are mentoring during the GSoC's coding phase. They will also have the ability to submit evaluations when requested for the student projects they are mentoring.

From what I've understood, you can register yourself as an organization administrator and later invite mentors to join if accepted.
But it is not really clear to me (do mentors register now or later ?)

Nicolas

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On Mar 6, 2012, at 17:25 , John Hunter wrote:

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Nicolas Rougier <Nicolas.Rougier@...980....> wrote:

And this page seems to gather all relevant links:

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/userguide

One thing I am unclear on. They make a distinction between being mentors and organization administrators. In the past, PSF has always been the sponsoring organization. What I am wondering is: does mpl need to have an organization administrator in addition to mentors, or is PSF the organization administrator and we just sign up individually as mentors?

That's referring to PSF or other "top-level" projects.

Google doesn't care about how the PSF arranges its projects
internally, so there's not going to be anything about that on their
project calendar. As far as Google's concerned, the PSF is a single
"organization", and this is the stage where they decide which
"organizations" get funded. (The PSF will, of course.)

-- Nathaniel
(Two-time GSoC mentoring organization admin person)

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM, John Hunter <jdh2358@...149...> wrote:

The timeline at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012
says March 6th is the "[GSOC] Mentoring organization application deadline".
How do you interpret "mentoring organization" there? As the PSF or someone
under their umbrella such as statsmodels or mpl?