best format for MS word?

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From: Shixin Zeng <zeng.shixin@...287...>
Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Matplotlib-users] best format for MS word?
To: Stan West <stan.west@...706...>

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Stan West<stan.west@...706...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Shixin Zeng [mailto:zeng.shixin@…287…]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 16:11

While for embeding eps files in word, I've just tried that. MS word
2007 seems to have some problem on this. See the attached eps
file produced from matplotlib. In MS word 2007, the labels
and titles of axes are gone, even on the printed version of
the word file. It's there when I view/print it with gsview.

I don't have Word 2007, but I imported your file into Word 2003 and saw that
the titles and labels were missing. I would blame that on shortcomings of the
Word PS engine. When I printed to a non-PostScript printer, the titles and
labels were missing as in your test; that doesn't surprise me, because the
Word PS engine would be used to render for a non-PS printer. However, when I
printed to PostScript devices (the Adobe PDF driver and the PDFCreator
driver), the titles and text were present; Word shouldn't invoke its PS engine
when the printer understands PS. Is there any chance that you were using a
non-PS printer, or that your printer has two or more modes (like the
Hewlett-Packard models that automatically switch between PCL and PS) and you
were not using a PS driver? How about testing with PDFCreator?

I'm not sure if my printer supports PS or not, it's Dell Laser 1320c,
I couldn't find any information from its property page.

I'm afraid that I'm giving up matplotlib for my paper plotting, since
my professor wants me to do plotting with excel such that he doesn't
have to ask me to do every small change on the plot if he could do it
himself.

I’m sure everybody find this really sad… If he wants control over the ploting capabilities, then why not have matplotlib and send him the script?

I know when I switched to matplotlib from matlab I wanted to be able to edit directly the graph with point and click, but sometimes it is more powerful or even easier to edit the script.

If the changes are really small, you could always send him an SVG that he edits in Inkscape. I do that sometimes.

There might be other open source plotting packages which are WYSIWYG, like qtiplot. Please, please! don’t go with excel :wink: Its quality is so much lower then any other software.

2009/9/3 Shixin Zeng <zeng.shixin@…287…>

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Thanks for your helps.

Best Regards

Shixin Zeng

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From: Shixin Zeng <zeng.shixin@…287…>

Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Subject: Re: [Matplotlib-users] best format for MS word?

To: Stan West <stan.west@…2764…>

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Stan West<stan.west@…706…> wrote:

-----Original Message-----

From: Shixin Zeng [mailto:zeng.shixin@…287…]

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 16:11

While for embeding eps files in word, I’ve just tried that. MS word

2007 seems to have some problem on this. See the attached eps

file produced from matplotlib. In MS word 2007, the labels

and titles of axes are gone, even on the printed version of

the word file. It’s there when I view/print it with gsview.

I don’t have Word 2007, but I imported your file into Word 2003 and saw that

the titles and labels were missing. I would blame that on shortcomings of the

Word PS engine. When I printed to a non-PostScript printer, the titles and

labels were missing as in your test; that doesn’t surprise me, because the

Word PS engine would be used to render for a non-PS printer. However, when I

printed to PostScript devices (the Adobe PDF driver and the PDFCreator

driver), the titles and text were present; Word shouldn’t invoke its PS engine

when the printer understands PS. Is there any chance that you were using a

non-PS printer, or that your printer has two or more modes (like the

Hewlett-Packard models that automatically switch between PCL and PS) and you

were not using a PS driver? How about testing with PDFCreator?

I’m not sure if my printer supports PS or not, it’s Dell Laser 1320c,

I couldn’t find any information from its property page.

I’m afraid that I’m giving up matplotlib for my paper plotting, since

my professor wants me to do plotting with excel such that he doesn’t

have to ask me to do every small change on the plot if he could do it

himself.


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Yes, Me feel sad as well. But I don't think he wants to learn python
and then matplotlib. He is not a computer professor after all.

Best Regards

Shixin Zeng

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On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Nicolas Bigaouette<nbigaouette@...287...> wrote:

I'm sure everybody find this really sad... If he wants control over the
ploting capabilities, then why not have matplotlib and send him the script?
I know when I switched to matplotlib from matlab I wanted to be able to edit
directly the graph with point and click, but sometimes it is more powerful
or even easier to edit the script.

If the changes are really small, you could always send him an SVG that he
edits in Inkscape. I do that sometimes.
There might be other open source plotting packages which are WYSIWYG, like
qtiplot. Please, please! don't go with excel :wink: Its quality is so much lower
then any other software.

2009/9/3 Shixin Zeng <zeng.shixin@...287...>

Forgot CC list.

Thanks for your helps.

Best Regards

Shixin Zeng

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From: Shixin Zeng <zeng.shixin@...287...>
Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Matplotlib-users] best format for MS word?
To: Stan West <stan.west@...706...>

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Stan West<stan.west@…706…> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shixin Zeng [mailto:zeng.shixin@…287…]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 16:11
>>
>> While for embeding eps files in word, I've just tried that. MS word
>> 2007 seems to have some problem on this. See the attached eps
>> file produced from matplotlib. In MS word 2007, the labels
>> and titles of axes are gone, even on the printed version of
>> the word file. It's there when I view/print it with gsview.
>
> I don't have Word 2007, but I imported your file into Word 2003 and saw
> that
> the titles and labels were missing. I would blame that on shortcomings
> of the
> Word PS engine. When I printed to a non-PostScript printer, the titles
> and
> labels were missing as in your test; that doesn't surprise me, because
> the
> Word PS engine would be used to render for a non-PS printer. However,
> when I
> printed to PostScript devices (the Adobe PDF driver and the PDFCreator
> driver), the titles and text were present; Word shouldn't invoke its PS
> engine
> when the printer understands PS. Is there any chance that you were
> using a
> non-PS printer, or that your printer has two or more modes (like the
> Hewlett-Packard models that automatically switch between PCL and PS) and
> you
> were not using a PS driver? How about testing with PDFCreator?
>
>
I'm not sure if my printer supports PS or not, it's Dell Laser 1320c,
I couldn't find any information from its property page.

I'm afraid that I'm giving up matplotlib for my paper plotting, since
my professor wants me to do plotting with excel such that he doesn't
have to ask me to do every small change on the plot if he could do it
himself.

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